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Some people believe that mag mount magnets lose their effectiveness over time, eventually causing a dangerous situation as the antenna could rip loose from the vehicle and become a projectile or distraction at an unfortunate time -- e.g. on a highway due to air forces or perhaps at a stoplight under heavy braking.

Mitigating these concerns are the fact that the antenna is still attached by coax and that I personally have never seen it mentioned in the news nor have I heard of any traffic laws prohibiting mag mount antennas on a vehicle.

Still, with safety in mind, I use the screw in trunk lip mounts.

Should I keep telling my friends to stay away from the mag mounts or are these supposed dangers merely paranoia and urban legend?

Paul
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Magnet mounts can come off, and they do fall occasionally. I can't quote any statistics, but it has happened to me twice in the past - tall HF antenna combined with too small magnet mount and high speed. Luckily the cable held the thing on the roof. Short VHF/UHF sticks (think 1/4 wave for 2 meters) would never fall with the same mount - the wind load is just so much smaller. For my irregular HF use, I've switched to a larger magnet mount and thinner vertical, and the constantly used VHF/UHF sticks are drilled-through.

There are also stories of shattered glass (antenna comes off and hits your own back window) and scratches on roof.

If the antenna fell down and stopped in the middle of a highway, it would be dangerous to a motorcycle, but less of a hazard to a car. It might break a tire, which in turn could lead into a more serious accident. A thick HF antenna could puncture a car somehow. Large magnet mounts are heavy, and one could bounce higher into air and penetrate a wind shield. In an accident it would probably get loose and fly away, but it would have the same velocity as the much heavier car, and the damage caused by the car would probably be dominant.

If you loose one of these on a road, do go back and pick it up immediately. If you loose one on a highway, in many places it's both dangerous and illegal to stop and go pick it up yourself, so you might have to call the police for assistance.

Wikipedia has some information on how magnets can be demagnetized. Permanent magnets are made from "hard" ferromagnetic material which are very hard to demagnetize. Magnets on the roof are unlikely to get hot enough to degauss (140 °C / 280 °F for neodymium, 300 °C / 570 °F for ferrite and SmCo), and they're not subject to strong external magnetic fields, either. Hammering or jarring - some vibration is going to be present, and after a very long time that might have some effect, but that's just my guess.

Typically a mag mount will be decommissioned quick enough that demagnetizing should not be a concern. Water tends to get into the connectors and cables, and the cables break from stress under doors.

Magnet mounts are very popular. I don't remember any documented serious accidents with them. If accidents would happen, there would be articles on the amateur magazines, blog posts, and pictures on the Internet. I would claim they're pretty safe, if the relation between antenna size, mag mount strength and vehicle velocity are in a good balance.

oh7lzb
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They can absolutely come off. Here is a forum thread with numerous posters reporting antennas falling off from the wind of passing a semi - it's a storm chaser forum, but the storms weren't even mentioned as a factor in many of these incidents. Here, several QRZ posters advise that mag mounts may fall off, and this poster reassures us that having the right size magnet is key: his has only fallen of "a couple times"!

It's not a function of not having a big enough magnet, it's the fact that even the best mag mount on the market will be the "weakest link" in your vehicle, and the first thing to give in to wind. Even when it's not falling off, it can move around and scuff your paint, especially if you move it between vehicles on a regular basis. In many ways, an NMO mount is less damaging to a vehicle than a magnet mount - the damage is confined to a very small area compared to a 3-5" diameter magnet, the hole can be somewhat easily patched or even more easily plugged, and there's no damage to the surrounding paint.

Dan KD2EE
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Check with the antenna manufacturer. They frequently have mounting recommendations. For example, the following is straight from Diamond Antenna's website.

Use of magnet mounts is not recommended with tall antennas, i.e SG7900A, SG7900ANMO, CR627B, CR627BNMO & HV7A, NR22L, NR7900A.

Source as of 30 October 2013: http://www.diamondantenna.net/Product_Catalog/techno.html

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I had a mag mount attached to the fender of my van (fiberglass roof and hood) and only about 75% of the base was able to fit on the top of the fender. Well when I got on the highway, up to about 60 mph and hit a bump, off went the antenna, hanging about 2 feet off the van, guy next to me beeped and braked, I pulled right over and drug it back in the window. No accident, but learned my lesson. That being said I have the same mag mount antenna on top of my Jeep and it stays on through the bumps and craters of I-95 at 80mph. So I'd say, from experience, if 100% of the base is attached to metal, you should be good. That being said, there's an exception for every rule...